Brit_tries_to_fly
It seems many of the links on the scratchbuild thread are broken...

https://www.rcpowers.com/post/master-list-getting-started-10023138?pid=1307213290

I'm coming at this from a really low base.

I have a DX6i and some high quality metal gear servos from model helicopters (and more I could "borrow" from a T-Rex 450 Sport if necessary) but most of my kit is from crashed shop-bought planes - and cheap ones at that.

Is it worth throwing it all away and investing in new kit or can I realistically pull something together that will work with the V1 F22 plan? Even the link to the F22 build guide which comes when you purchase the plans isn't working. While I'm happy to just have a crack at it I've only got a limited supply of Depron sheets available and I don't want to waste them as I understand the modern equivalents are inferior..

Thoughts and sources of reliable information welcome! Thanks in advance.
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solentlife
The DX6i is a good radio .... its now a base line though as many radios are with more channels. But its good and no need to change.

If you have servos from a 450 Heli - they will be perfect for any of the plan models here ... in fact I would say they would likely be better than what most people use !!  Servos in the 9gr range are the usual here.

I do have ONE area of concern though. Have you flown fixed wing before ? Most of the plans here are intermediate level machines ... 
I'll fly anything if I can launch it ! Youtube : solentlifeuk
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F1wanabe
It seems many of the links on the scratchbuild thread are broken...

https://www.rcpowers.com/post/master-list-getting-started-10023138?pid=1307213290

I'm coming at this from a really low base.

I have a DX6i and some high quality metal gear servos from model helicopters (and more I could "borrow" from a T-Rex 450 Sport if necessary) but most of my kit is from crashed shop-bought planes - and cheap ones at that.

Is it worth throwing it all away and investing in new kit or can I realistically pull something together that will work with the V1 F22 plan? Even the link to the F22 build guide which comes when you purchase the plans isn't working. While I'm happy to just have a crack at it I've only got a limited supply of Depron sheets available and I don't want to waste them as I understand the modern equivalents are inferior..

Thoughts and sources of reliable information welcome! Thanks in advance.

Brit, As I mentioned in the welcome page, when Dave shut down his servers all the links broke.  But a lot of the info is still here but in a different place! Use the excellent search function and you'll probably find the info at its new location. Regardless of the link, you know you can ask here and get a quick answer!
The F22 doesnt need much to fly, that DX6 is perfect, two servos for the elevons and a good motor like a turnigy 2200 2826 or Graysom MJv3. Let me search quickly for thr f22 v1...
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F1wanabe
F22v1 Thread:     https://www.rcpowers.com/post/rcpowers-f22-v1-10008093?pid=1307270037&highlight=f22+easybuild+v1

Old Master parts. https://www.rcpowers.com/post/old-master-parts-list-closed-10013344?pid=1307430833&highlight=master+parts+list

The names of the product are still there so you can search for it. But the links to Hobby KIng and other vendors have changed as well on their sites.
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Brit_tries_to_fly
Perfect, thanks both. I did spend a very pleasant hour search threads on the site but didn’t turn up exactly what I was looking for. I’ll try those now.

I’ve flown fixed wing before. One shop-bought trainer plane and several self-built foamies.

Over everything I’ve built or bought, I reckon I’ve clocked up a good, oooooh, 4 minutes of flight, and one event that you might charitably refer to as a “landing”.

Learned a lot about repairing things though! 
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F1wanabe
Have you tried the F35 yet? F35v3 is one of the easiest planes to build and fly. I flew mine on 2s with a 7x3.8 wsf prop so it flew super slow and easy. No torque roll from that prop!
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Sidewayskiwi
Iam going out on a  limb here but i reckon you might have a similar issue with transmitter set up i had 
jeez i pranged a few 
depending on transmitter make and format 
EXPO CAN BE POSITIVE OR NEGITIVE
so when you think youre softening the sticks around the centre  some makes and formats are actually making it more sensitive and to a rookie unflyable 
i have a FLYSKYI6 now everyone on rcpowers podcasts and flitetest were saying 30 to 40 % expo 
i was over controlling crashed my first 10 profile foamies 
till i worked out that + expo made the sticks super sensitive but i needed negitive expo on my I6 
get a model and plug it in , trans on carefully watch as you touch the sticks if surfaces move instantly reverse your expos pos to neg or viceversa 
its a longshot but hey it was my problem
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F1wanabe
Perfect, thanks both. I did spend a very pleasant hour search threads on the site but didn’t turn up exactly what I was looking for. I’ll try those now.

I’ve flown fixed wing before. One shop-bought trainer plane and several self-built foamies.

Over everything I’ve built or bought, I reckon I’ve clocked up a good, oooooh, 4 minutes of flight, and one event that you might charitably refer to as a “landing”.

Learned a lot about repairing things though! 

A few more links.  These are stickys under the scratchbuild category:
Master Getting Started list:
https://www.rcpowers.com/post/master-list-getting-started-10023138?pid=1307213290
Master List: Build Instructions:
https://www.rcpowers.com/post/master-list-build-instructions-10023293?pid=1307458527
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Boxermad84
Iam going out on a  limb here but i reckon you might have a similar issue with transmitter set up i had 
jeez i pranged a few 
depending on transmitter make and format 
EXPO CAN BE POSITIVE OR NEGITIVE
so when you think youre softening the sticks around the centre  some makes and formats are actually making it more sensitive and to a rookie unflyable


This cought me out when I switched from futaba to frsky. If I'm setting up a new model now, I usually go extreme with the expo to make sure I've done it the right direction, the dial it back to the right setting. 
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solentlife
Iam going out on a  limb here but i reckon you might have a similar issue with transmitter set up i had 
jeez i pranged a few 
depending on transmitter make and format 
EXPO CAN BE POSITIVE OR NEGITIVE
so when you think youre softening the sticks around the centre  some makes and formats are actually making it more sensitive and to a rookie unflyable 
i have a FLYSKYI6 now everyone on rcpowers podcasts and flitetest were saying 30 to 40 % expo 
i was over controlling crashed my first 10 profile foamies 
till i worked out that + expo made the sticks super sensitive but i needed negitive expo on my I6 
get a model and plug it in , trans on carefully watch as you touch the sticks if surfaces move instantly reverse your expos pos to neg or viceversa 
its a longshot but hey it was my problem


Most radios today will give you a graphic display of Expo / DR etc.
I'll fly anything if I can launch it ! Youtube : solentlifeuk
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Sidewayskiwi
solentlife wrote:


Most radios today will give you a graphic display of Expo / DR etc.

Yes they do 
but unless you mk4 Eyeball it you dont know if youve softened or made it more agressive
Flysky has digital and a graph learnt from my issues how to interpret the graph 
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Brit_tries_to_fly
Thanks for the extra links and the feedback.

Thanks also for crediting me with far more skill than I actually possess! 🙂

The helicopters taught me a lot about the DX6i controller and while I’m no expert I’m positive the settings were correct (I always verify them on the deck - helicopter parts are EXPENSIVE).


 Interesting on the F35 v3. I enjoyed the vid and would like to build one but my search of the forums said that the F22 V1 was the friendly one, so that’s what I went for.

I’ve dug out my foam, glue gun and old motor / servo stash. My old batteries all look shot and my charger is missing so I need to prep a Christmas list...

Good thing I have an understanding wife!
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Sidewayskiwi
Thanks for the extra links and the feedback.

Thanks also for crediting me with far more skill than I actually possess! 🙂

The helicopters taught me a lot about the DX6i controller and while I’m no expert I’m positive the settings were correct (I always verify them on the deck - helicopter parts are EXPENSIVE).


 Interesting on the F35 v3. I enjoyed the vid and would like to build one but my search of the forums said that the F22 V1 was the friendly one, so that’s what I went for.

I’ve dug out my foam, glue gun and old motor / servo stash. By batteries all look shot and my charger is missing so I need to prep a Christmas list...

Good think I have an understanding wife!

My F35V3 is made out of adams readiboard hot glue glass drywall tape and foam tac 
runs a Turnigy 2826 2200kv 7x3 prop on 3S 
bit on the heavy side but i reckon better for our local conditions 
heavy or light they fly right
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JettaManDan
The V1 F-22 was my 1st foamie ever. After a quick toss and crash (servos reversed) and a fix..i was in the air and doing loops and rolls on the 1st real flight. After only a few weeks of basic FMS sim training. With some past experience you will be fine. If built well it will be strong and take a beating. My plane went through 3 sets of hands over it's years and probably had 300+ flights on it. Ask any questions...we are happy to help.

Dan
My YouTube Channel - 250+ Video's! http://www.youtube.com/jettamandan09

I'm an R/C Junkie! 40+ planes - 12 Heli's - 6 multirotors - and ground vehicles galore! I've got issues.
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F1wanabe
I got into RCPowers about the time the F22 v2 and F117 v2 came out. I briefly flew the v1 before building the V2. The V2 was great, but I really liked the V1 size!
Wife did video and hit the pause button by mistake...
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