Jbirky
Okay, so here is the deal. A friend and I go order some fancy coffees at our local City Java (or is it Java City)... I digress... Okay, their coffee is not that great unless you get about 6 shots of espresso in your chocolate latte...

Anyway, I put a tip in the little cup thing that says "TIPS" right on the jar and then as we are waiting he asks for our drinks he says, "so, you really tip?"

I said, "yeah; I did not think about it. I guess it makes sense; I mean I would tip a bartender." To which he counterd with, "Well, have you ever seen anyone tip?" Naturally this lead to quite a debacle as we debated our reasons why we think we are right. As you may guess, I explained that there is a "TIP Jar," to which he then proclaimed "yea, but tipping is optional."

Alright, so we got our drinks & next on the list is watching if people gave tips... We must have spent an hour watching if people left tips instead of going over our project details for coding a VB.NET application for a joint project. Why we even brought our laptops; I will never know.

One thing is apparent and that is that it is hit and miss who pays tips, but many people seem to avoid tipping though several tipped. He is saying that they do it because they are being duped into tipping, but I kind of wonder if it is because they know or at leas they think they know to tip. In contrast to a coffee shop, if you go to a bar, it seems like everyone is tipping. He claims this is just a phenomenon related to alcohol & if you ever need to collect a debt from someone pay them a visit and instead of breaking their knees just buy the drinks - they will pay... Hum, interesting. (wrong message board)

Does anyone have any guidelines, or at least suggestions?

Do Baristas (and Baristos?) get tipped?


If they do what is the fee structure? Is it like $1 for a regular coffee and $2 for a fancy coffee? or is it a flat percentage?


Aside from being totally unproductive & not getting any work done, we were probably the two brightest guys in the place, yet in the end we agreed to disagree and that we did not know - Oh, and "No" the coffee place did not have Wi-Fi or we would have been searching Google.
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kevinm
a local chinese take out place i used to frequent has a plastic tip jar, and it was hit and miss if i would put anything in it ,
id always get the same thing -schezuan (its not in my spellcheck) chicken, and it was always the same , delicious , etc -
got it one day, hadnt tipped , found it laced with splintered chicken bones- splintered chicken bones are very sharp and pointy and dangerous, so i said if thats all in here thats gonna hurt me, ill carefully chew each bite, (hungry) and never go back - thats the plan for the forseeable future , though i do like to park in front of their store if im going into the dollar store next door -hopefully piss em off more than missing the tip jar
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VallieJean
As a former barista, I now always tip at least a dollar...if you're just getting a regular coffee it's no biggie but if you come in everyday and spend $4 on a drink, you can afford to help a brother out.

One time a customer asked for change on a quarter so he could pay a tip...really! Usually, the cashier or barista are so busy they don't notice if you give or not... I know America is one of the last countries to have optional gratuity but if you've got some extra change for yummy coffee, why not?
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ImGonnaCrash
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As a former barista, I now always tip at least a dollar...if you're just getting a regular coffee it's no biggie but if you come in everyday and spend $4 on a drink, you can afford to help a brother out.

One time a customer asked for change on a quarter so he could pay a tip...really! Usually, the cashier or barista are so busy they don't notice if you give or not... I know America is one of the last countries to have optional gratuity but if you've got some extra change for yummy coffee, why not?

WOW really who ask for change on a quarter and then uses that to tip thats just low?!?
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Sonicjet
Oh ,do I have a good story for you guys hehe...

So was in NYC for the Week, and I decide to go to an authentic Chinatown Chinese, so I get my meal (it was ok,the next year we found a back ally place that the Chinese we asked said is the best in NYC) I'm about finished and I see two Russian women at a table about 15 feet away,you see, the bill has the tip thrown in,they, not wanting to pay it, only give the amount before the tip. The waiter walks up,looks at the money and says(I have to throw it in engrish, it's funny) "You no pay tip!" the Russian lady keeps calm and responds:"the food was not good". The waiter loses it. "You owe me $1.25!, I Want my tip, You Will pay the tip!!" (By this point he is screaming) she puts a buck on the table and goes to leave, the waiter stops her though :"You still owe 25 cent, Give me 25 cent!" she walks around him and with that he screams (while following her to the door) "You No Come Back, I watch, You get bad food if come back!" ...we threw a five on the table when we left,.
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kevinm
yikes - "do not run- we are your friends"! (mars attacks)- without mentioning any names or any ethnicity , some peoples know exactly where a penny they earned went 6 months ago it seems
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kevinm
wow
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LRJEThappy
Here is a clue the person who tips a little extra, most of the time is remembered by the staff.
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vltchkr8477
I always tip 20% if its a coffee shop, bar, or local garage fixing my flat tire. I couldn't say if its right or wrong to tip, all I know it makes me feel good about it. And I dont know about ppl remembering you because you tip, but at my local coffee shop they do know me by name and what im drinking before I walk through the door
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Argonath
if you go by the rules of etiquette, then the appropriate gratuity is supposed to the same amount as the local tax rate. So for example if the tax rate is 10% then the appropriate tip is 10% of the cost for the items (Before Tax).

While a tip IS optional and entirely up to the client (not the establishment), it's preferred to tip at least something. Locally, the tax rate here is 15% so in general I try to abide by this rule in restaurants. Also, I tend to only tip in places where you are served at your table and not in places where it's handed to you over a counter or at a self serve buffet.

Years ago, I used to take clients to sales lunches where you went to a place, ate and talked business and worked out the details for supply contracts. We went to place here called the Rib'n'Reef (steak and seafood place with a booze license).

Now, I had 3 clients from a company with me and we ordered had our meal, talked business, etc and by the end of the lunch, we had not concluded everything so we made arrangements to come back the following day. Now, the entire time, our waiter was slow, sloppy, never to be found, and actually borderline rude with us. So at the end of the meal when he brought the check, I paid it and added a 20% tip and my clients asked me if I was serious about that high a tip because the service was lousy. I told them no problem, you'll understand tomorrow, you'll see.

So the next day we went back at lunch time and I made it a point to get seated in the same waiter's section and they said you know he's going to be lousy again right? I said not today, you'll see. Sure enough, service was A1, waited on hand and foot, always nearby, very polite.

At the end of the lunch, when the bill came, they asked me what I was going to tip him considering the previous day's tip and I told them to wait until the waiter returns and they'll see how much and why.

So the waiter comes back and I pay the bill and I only gave a 10% tip. He accepted it but it was obvious that he was perplexed about it so I asked him if there was something wrong and the waiter says to me I don't understand why yesterday you gave me a huge tip and today you gave me half what you did yesterday. So I replied, the tip you got yesterday, was for the service you gave us today and this tip was for yesterday.

The waiter looked at me and said Point taken sir, you're absolutely right and I apologize for yesterday. My clients looked at each other and then said to me now we understand why and are VERY impressed. Let's go back to your office and sign the paperwork.

Any other lunch deal I had there after that, ALWAYS got the best of service from the same waiter and he always got what was deserved.
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kevinm
was the vid i posted against the rules?
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VallieJean
eh no, just off topic
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Jbirky
Argonath, you always have a story to tell, and I think you already told the one above in a prior thread because somehow I knew what it was going to say before I finished reading it. I sort of had an experience of déjà vu.

In the USA, ettiqute is a bit different in that paying just the taxes as a tip at a sit-down/dine-in restaurant will not be satisfactory. Latley, the taxes for eating-out have been as high as 9%, but the tip has always been 15% to 20% (has not changed).

Next question... how much do you tip for Take-Out?
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Argonath
Been a lot of places and seen a lot of faces. Thailand was a blur in bankok when I stopped there while passing through to Cambodia to see Angkor Wat (Stone city) and then from there off to Hunan Province in China to visit a Buddist temple (the Shaolin temple there more accurately).

I learned a lot while traveling but that one I learned in Kuwait. Arab culture is fascinating and they know how to barter in ways we can barely imagine (Which is where I picked up that little trick). You can say or do anything you want in this world because it not so much what you say or do, but HOW you say it or do it that make all the difference.

In many cases you can make a statement and move mountains without ever saying a word with minor action. Requests can be such that the person will comply because it's clearly not a request but a requirement instead and they will have no problem complying because of how it was imparted.

now, do I tip for take out? Depends. When you say take out, do you mean walk up to the counter and pick it up or delivery to your door?

Pick up at the counter - No.
Delivery to my door - Yes.

Anything that involved someone bringing it to me via delivery or at a sit down meal in a restaurant, I tip for. If I have to pickup the item myself then I usually don't tip.
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