whatmovesyou
Found this:
Forest Plane.JPG 

Since I have about 6 scratch built projects in different stages, won't get to this one for along time. So, why not take some of the pro's on this site and see what and if they could do with it.
There are a lot of possibilities being V tail, where do you put the motor, could it carry cargo, etc? (does it need a kf wing)
This was suppose to be built for the Forestry Dept and was cancelled. So there are no plans or anything available.

This site is designed for beginners to learn. So you pros should put your self back to basics and are there any takers?
I like to design and fly unique planes.
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JettaManDan
you need to define who is a pro !

it is wasn't horribly ugly...well....
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squishy
only pro's here are scott and dave...I wish I got paid to do this, ...
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rodrigo
can you clarify what do you need?
I can't understand the questions....

I dream to build a water bomber in a near future and have some info if you want, but like Dan said this one is really ugly and proportions looks hard to keep in flight.

by the way if you want the opinion of pro guys go to rcgroups

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squishy
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by the way if you want the opinion of pro guys go to rcgroups



YUP! This is just noobs helping noobs...
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PhilDou
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YUP! This is just noobs helping noobs...


Or kinda like the cataracts leading the blind.
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LukeWarm
That plane is in trouble, all that smoke coming from it is a bad sign. Ha ha

I'm no pro, but i'm at least smart enough to know some of the things to check.
This is not a stunt plane, and it will have poor low speed handling characteristics. It's using the bottom of the plane as a wing loading surface. The bottom has more surface area that the main wing. This is important to remember when placing the motor because you don't want the plane to fly top heavy. An Estes rocket motor would work well in this plane, but I don't thing that's what you want it for. An EDF would need additional intakes and the plane would have to be reasonably large. If you wanted to put the motor behind the plane, The horizontal stabilizer is not large enough to support anything but a very small motor. The motor could go on the nose, but some cosmetic changes would have to be made; a larger main wing moved forward a little. This plane is no floater, it's made to go fast. A V-tail mix would work OK with ailerons, but I would use a delta mix instead. As is, unless you use a rocket motor, this plane is a poor candidate for RC. Cosmetic changes would be necessary. If you put motors on the ends of the wings and make them to where they could tilt, this would be good for a V-22 Osprey platform.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Boeing_V-22_Osprey
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whatmovesyou
All I was suggesting is that, those who always give answer to noobs, which lots of time the answers vary, agree, disagree, and if you apply that person's knowledge to design and build a plane based on equal footing, it would be very interesting.
Other than Luke, who made some good comments, I guess there are no takers.
I like to design and fly unique planes.
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satt01
It'll fly because the fuselage is just a big air foil.
You might look into the Q4 (hydro plane) it too has short wings and a sort of V tail.

if I made a model like that. it's basically gonna be a hydro plane.
I might make the wing fatter (wider not loner) just to get a little bit more lift without
making the wing longer. It'll have excellent roll rates..
It's the like the Something Extra, Contender, UcanDo or those cambat planes
with just a CF rod as the fuselage. The wings are shorter but they're wide and thick which
gives you plenty of wing area. They actually float. Yeah...put K4 on them.

I'd mount the motor at the tail just to keep things simple.
Make the fuselage nice and fat like a boat. So it'll float on water without needing floats on the
wings. it'll be like a swamp boat. Make retractable rudders when on water.
It's never too heavy. it just lacks power.
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satt01
It flies because there's more power to weight ratio.
Also notice how he made the fuselage to look like an air foil.
It's basically a flat bottom air foil as on trainers.


As long as there's more power to weight ratio , It'll fly.
It's basically just like wings on these jets, hydro foam, or flying lawn mowers..ect
It's still an air foil just not the most efficient.
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squishy
I wouldn't equate power to weight ratio with resulting in an airfoil. Power to weight ratio makes things fly (creates lift) because of angle of attack not an airfoil. In fact an airfoil is: A structure with curved surfaces designed to give the most favorable ratio of lift to drag in flight. It's a very specific thing and if you are not designing an airfoil (one of those ^) then it's not an airfoil, it's just a flat piece of foam, kite or a powered kite...I have called the CnE a powered kite many times...I think it's a stretch to call the KF an airfoil, but I let it slide because the originator/designer was seeking an airfoil when he came up with it...
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satt01
The venture principle....

This will probably give noobies plenty of ideas.
Knife edge hanging a prop.lmao
It's a real aircraft. Talk about flying when your life depended on it.
he knew he had power....


Here's a guy in RC mastering the same aerobatic maneuver.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=rjnUYE05YsQ

It's probably why the department of Forestry dept was looking into shorter
wings Aircraft due to the C-130 crashed because of wing structure failure.
Plus a shorter wing would also allow the aircraft to take off from smaller lakes.


This model flies. It looks like the wings had been gutted.


Boldgy models.
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squishy
Your 1st video is fake..
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GrumpyBear
I think I see something different here. I think what you have is a double hull flying boat. If you look closely at the step on the fuse I would think that is the bottom of the fuse. What is below are the twin hulls that support the aircraft on the water. They would also double as the water tanks. The vents at the rear of the fuse would suggest a jet propulsion system. The narrow wing cord has been used in other high lift designs such as the DeHavaland (I probably spelled that wrong) Dash 7 and 8 and the turbo beaver and otter series aircraft.
Could this conceptual aircraft be modeled? It may very well be possible. Pusher configuration, twin hull, scoop and vent water system with drop doors, oh my, I'm getting that feeling again.
WMY good luck. If you can pull this off, you will be the pro! GB.
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