hampilot
I have the F-35 V2 cut out and ready to put together. I also purchased the V3 set for down the road. As a newbie, I have a question that is mentioned on the site that I still can't seem to wrap my arms around: Can you fly the F-35 with elevons only? I see others doing this, but is the rudders not used?
If anyone could explain the pros and cons, I will appreciate it.
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e3_Scott
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I have the F-35 V2 cut out and ready to put together. I also purchased the V3 set for down the road. As a newbie, I have a question that is mentioned on the site that I still can't seem to wrap my arms around: Can you fly the F-35 with elevons only? I see others doing this, but is the rudders not used?
If anyone could explain the pros and cons, I will appreciate it.



For beginners elevons only is actually recommended as it is easier to setup as long as you can do mixing in your transmitter or use an onboard mixer. Most of these parkjets are "yank and bank", unless you want to do a lot of slow flying, high alpha or other advanced maneuvers, elevons only work just fine as it gives you control in both the pitch and roll axes.

You won't get a ton of response in the roll axis, so rolls will be slow, but in the pitch you can still get full deflection.

If you start off with elevons only, you can always activate the other surfaces on the same plane later if you want to, but elevons only is the best place to start. I flew my first F35 V2 on elevons only and it was the best way to learn for me anyway.

Here is an excellent tutorial on how all the control surfaces should work

http://www.rcpowers.com/community/threads/the-controls-we-use-tutorial.15174/

Cheers,

Scott
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hampilot
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For beginners elevons only is actually recommended as it is easier to setup as long as you can do mixing in your transmitter or use an onboard mixer. Most of these parkjets are "yank and bank", unless you want to do a lot of slow flying, high alpha or other advanced maneuvers, elevons only work just fine as it gives you control in both the pitch and roll axes.

You won't get a ton of response in the roll axis, so rolls will be slow, but in the pitch you can still get full deflection.

If you start off with elevons only, you can always activate the other surfaces on the same plane later if you want to, but elevons only is the best place to start. I flew my first F35 V2 on elevons only and it was the best way to learn for me anyway.

Here is an excellent tutorial on how all the control surfaces should work

http://www.rcpowers.com/community/threads/the-controls-we-use-tutorial.15174/

Cheers,

Scott

Thanks once again Scott.
I can mix on my 6 channel Hobby King TX. I did it on the Mikeys FPV V3.
I thought I had read some where that this was good for a trainer and as you said, I can install the rudders later on. The F-35 V2 was easy to cut out and is going well in the assembly. I look forward to the V3 and have already printed the plans. My only flying/learning was on the Cheap and Easy. CG is everything!
I will go back now and watch the youtube videos and read the tons of hints from other builders.
This is a great site and the planes are top of the line.
Terry
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squishy
Spot on scott, great advice...
"Education is not about filling buckets; it is lighting fires." W.B. Yeats

http://www.youtube.com/user/squishy654
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e3_Scott
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Spot on scott, great advice...



Thanks Squishy

Cheers,

Scott
Park Jet noise...the "other" sound of freedom😎
#ParkJetnoise #ParkJetpilot
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Thanks once again Scott.
I can mix on my 6 channel Hobby King TX. I did it on the Mikeys FPV V3.
I thought I had read some where that this was good for a trainer and as you said, I can install the rudders later on. The F-35 V2 was easy to cut out and is going well in the assembly. I look forward to the V3 and have already printed the plans. My only flying/learning was on the Cheap and Easy. CG is everything!
I will go back now and watch the youtube videos and read the tons of hints from other builders.
This is a great site and the planes are top of the line.
Terry



Sounds great, the F35 V2 with elevons only is a great way to get started in parkjets, it is not a terribly fast flier, and relatively docile, so a great starting point. If you have some expo available in your radio, you can start off with that, it will help soften the inputs until you get used to it. With the way the elevons are designed, you get some thrust vectoring assistance from the prop wash.

I built my first one rough and tough, got about 65-70 flights out of it which was perfect to get a good foundation before moving on to my next parkjet.

Good luck and have fun!

Cheers,

Scott
Park Jet noise...the "other" sound of freedom😎
#ParkJetnoise #ParkJetpilot
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squishy
Just don't try loops and rolls, just fly a basic pattern, an oval around the field or a figure eight...it's not an aerobatic airplane and very very docile with elevons only. It's absolutely perfect for beginners..
"Education is not about filling buckets; it is lighting fires." W.B. Yeats

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hampilot
Thanks squishy. I am beginning to find my way around the site. I do not want to squash on a thread that has already been started. As many as you have said, "Grab some foam and jump stright in." I am.
Terry
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I have the F-35 V2 cut out and ready to put together. I also purchased the V3 set for down the road. As a newbie, I have a question that is mentioned on the site that I still can't seem to wrap my arms around: Can you fly the F-35 with elevons only? I see others doing this, but is the rudders not used?
If anyone could explain the pros and cons, I will appreciate it.

Hampilot, may I suggest that you pre cut your ailerons for future use? The f35 is an ideal candidate for linked elevons and ailerons. Or 2x4 set up. When you are confident with the elevons, you keep the same 2 servos as you have for elevons, and just add aileron push rods on. Pre cutting them before assembly will mean that activating them later would take 15 min tops.
So, you cut and hinge the ailerons now, but tape them in place so they don't move until you need them.
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Hampilot, may I suggest that you pre cut your ailerons for future use? The f35 is an ideal candidate for linked elevons and ailerons. Or 2x4 set up. When you are confident with the elevons, you keep the same 2 servos as you have for elevons, and just add aileron push rods on. Pre cutting them before assembly will mean that activating them later would take 15 min tops.
So, you cut and hinge the ailerons now, but tape them in place so they don't move until you need them.



Thank you for the help. I was wondering if it was just two servos to set the elevons on the F-35.
I saw a youtube of linking the two control surfaces which I am sure I will do next. I will hinge and tape the ailerons tomorrow. I did purchase the V3 kit. After bending the nose on this one a few times I will move on. Installation of the push rods will be on hold until I go by Grayson's shop next week. They have a good crew there.
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Thank you for the help. I was wondering if it was just two servos to set the elevons on the F-35.
I saw a youtube of linking the two control surfaces which I am sure I will do next. I will hinge and tape the ailerons tomorrow. I did purchase the V3 kit. After bending the nose on this one a few times I will move on. Installation of the push rods will be on hold until I go by Grayson's shop next week. They have a good crew there.


I wish my LHS was as well stocked as Grayson! To be honest, they are pretty good and it takes 3 min to get there. Sounds good, hampilot, good luck with the v3!
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