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Flybyknight22
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They can shovel it where the sun don't shine! I will never abide by that nonsense. Carry on modeler's.

I hear what you are saying Flyte but it’s getting to be more of a liability than it is fun to fly, assuming this bill becomes law.

They don’t want you flying at night now. Flying at night with good running lights was once a hoot but can’t do that anymore it would seem without risking huge fines.

To keep insurance I pay the AMA membership.
New rules already in place make it harder to find legal places large enough to fly.

The defense department is driving some of this legislation because of “IED” Drones used by terrorists overseas and for other reasons.

I have almost stopped building and flying as a result.

When I do fly it’s on my own property or inside the house with small heli’s and quads.

Feds are starting to make it too much of a liability to do any medium to long range flying or flying above 400-ft.

It seems the hand writing is on the wall now.

AMA is trying to fight it and many of us continue contact with our legislators but just not enough people care to get involved until it’s too late it seems.

We will watch and see what happens, perhaps more common sense will prevail but if the FAA thinks a freakin rubber band powered plane needs electronic remote ID,.. I figure we are screwed.
And on the 8th day God said: "Go NAVY",.. and it was good! Pray like everything depends on God. Prepare like everything depends on you.
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Flybyknight22
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So horribly stupid

Yup Wild, government seems a bit out of control wanting total control, it’s what governments do best.
And on the 8th day God said: "Go NAVY",.. and it was good! Pray like everything depends on God. Prepare like everything depends on you.
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FlyteTime
I hear you Flyby, I only fly at a private field where I live so I'm not sweating it. Plus I've gotten more interested in shooting and buying guns lately. I go through phases of interests.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
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JTiger
So I read the pertinent section of the bill that was just passed. From what I read, most changes will be several months (or years) out because a lot of it isn't solid policy (i.e. all pilots will have to use remote I.D.) but establishing committees to look into stuff like that. My main gripe with it is the repeal of 336 as is gives the FAA power to create more rules in the future. I also seem to recall something about specific drone regulation falling under the DOT instead of the FAA? I guess we'll see what happens...
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CrstnJdi
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What are they expecting to change with such stupid regulations?????

It's even worse than I once pictured with my post about the pilots of palm-sized quadcopters having to report to flight controllers!

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JTiger
This video actually has a really good overview of what some of the main concerns are.

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CrstnJdi
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In section 1092(d) of the National Defense Authorization Act, on page 329 of the PDF containing the full text, and reads as follows:

(d) RESTORATION OF RULES FOR REGISTRATION AND MARKING OF UNMANNED AIRCRAFT
.—The rules adopted by the Administrator
of the Federal Aviation Administration in the matter of registration
and marking requirements for small unmanned aircraft (FAA-2015-
7396; published on December 16, 2015) that were vacated by the
United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
in Taylor v. Huerta (No. 15-1495; decided on May 19, 2017) shall
be restored to effect on the date of enactment of this Act.


It appears that this is trying to circumvent an earlier decision and there is no specification of whether any modification to the requirements that prevents it from being struck down using the same reason as before. In the FAA Modernization Act of 2012 Section 336(a), it specifically prevents the FAA from regulating hobby model aircraft, and was the basis of Taylor v. Huerta.

Check this out as well:
and :

This one is to a FPV coalition : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7JLoIpNJ0uomhPs9eA28oQ
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JTiger
Just read this article as well. The ACLU is notes that the bill raises privacy and due process concerns.

https://www.engadget.com/amp/2018/10/04/senate-bill-government-destroy-private-drones/
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Flybyknight22
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Check this out as well:
and :

This one is to a FPV coalition : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7JLoIpNJ0uomhPs9eA28oQ

These requirements turn the RC/scratch build hobby into a burden and will destroy the RC hobby in America.
1. Install transponder for electronic ID
2. Pay for and Pass a written exam
3. Builders must meet FAA build requirements
4. Present flying credentials to police on demand
5. FAA confiscation of drone when they think appropriate etc.
6. Issuing of stiff fines and or jail time for non-compliance.

Unless major changes are made, this will be the end of park flying as we have known it in America.

Major corporations like Amazon, Google, Dominoes and others want the airspace from
0-400 feet for package, pizza etc delivery systems.

They can’t have guys like us in their way. They have the money, power and influence to shut us down.

Some guys who own or have access to private property out in the middle of nowhere may feel like they get a pass but these changes in the FAA 2018 reauthorization act effectively end the hobby for most.
And on the 8th day God said: "Go NAVY",.. and it was good! Pray like everything depends on God. Prepare like everything depends on you.
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TacticalFlight
Iv'e called and told the Michigan state police and the county police to stay off my property.Amunition costs a lot......no warning shots will be given.Ammuntion is expensive!!That's posted on my poperty
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TacticalFlight
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So to go retrieve it does it show you on the map where it landed? Has it ended up in a tree? And how far away was it from the takeoff location?

Close enough for you to get fined.......really?Get a gip and grab your balls.Yeah I'm gruff.....stand up for what you believe
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TacticalFlight
Navy huh?Fly byknight22 .I understand your point.But...you were not on the ground ,you are not a grunt.I know we all need to work together.But.......I got really messed up in DEsert Storm.....Peroird.I don't need to hear your bullshit....or your plans.
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FlyteTime
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These requirements turn the RC/scratch build hobby into a burden and will destroy the RC hobby in America.
1. Install transponder for electronic ID
2. Pay for and Pass a written exam
3. Builders must meet FAA build requirements
4. Present flying credentials to police on demand
5. FAA confiscation of drone when they think appropriate etc.
6. Issuing of stiff fines and or jail time for non-compliance.

Unless major changes are made, this will be the end of park flying as we have known it in America.

Major corporations like Amazon, Google, Dominoes and others want the airspace from
0-400 feet for package, pizza etc delivery systems.

They can’t have guys like us in their way. They have the money, power and influence to shut us down.

Some guys who own or have access to private property out in the middle of nowhere may feel like they get a pass but these changes in the FAA 2018 reauthorization act effectively end the hobby for most.


They can take my remote from my cold dead hands.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.
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