solentlife
Like many - I have tried all sorts of camera's on-board and off. Hatcam, Cam-glasses, you name it ...

But I have to say that the best for keeping model in shot AND being able to zoom in / out without losing it ... has to be my old trusty Sony 8mm Handycam. People laugh when it comes out ... but put in the hands of a reasonable operator - you can have some of the best framed video ever. Yes I agree the resolution can be a bit off ... but the framing makes up for it.

My GoPro Hero 4 - if there was ever a camera that I hate - this has to be it ! I have so many batterys for it - trying to get any run time out of it.

SJ Sport cams (look like the GoPro 4) ... at least they keep working for longer than the GoPro ... but my 4K version cannot synch sound to video ! I transfer to PC and go to edit. Starts fine and then after a short time - the sound is dragging later and later compared to the video. So I end up cutting the sound and re-adding back to correct. The lower spec SJ sports are fine on this but I have difficulty believing its 1080 ! Its more like an expanded 480.

My Sunglass Camera is good - but I wear glasses and it doesn't sit well.

With all hat / sunglass cams - you have the same problem ... any movement of your head to look to side ... and the natural action to eyeball ahead of the model kills the video !

808's ... and MD80's ... well I think they have been put to history now by many newer cams ... and anyway - I could never keep one working more than a few months or so before it failed.

Which now brings me to the biggest PoS ever to hit the market .... Soloshot 3.

I was browsing online thinking about what camera can I get for model filming. I cam upon a link for Soloshot. The Robot Camera ... the videos supposedly showing it working were great - EXACTLY what I needed for the Club Shows etc. I accepted the Pre-Order deal of about 33% of price. They said I would wait about 3 - 5months for delivery. It actually took over 2 years before I saw my box in the mail.
Within the first year - the sealed in battery failed to charge. So I contacted Soloshot who finally gave in and sent me a new SS3 complete and told me to keep the old. Meanwhile I now see they are selling the SS3 Optic 25 system at $399 to clear ... I had paid the DISCOUNTED $599 !! AND paid Customs.
It has NEVER performed as advertised. It is fine with slow moving objects that are at a reasonable distance ... but as soon as you start to increase speed or do moderately fast direction changes - it loses it. Half the time during initialisation - it fails to align with the tag it tracks ... with lens way off mark.

I managed to force charge the old SS3 and I now have both working ... so when I video events now - I have both running with different settings to at least capture something.

They have Nikon Shoe mount on top - I am going to mount one of my Sport cams on that so I get a wide view anyway to go with the SS3 zoomed recording. That way I might at least get all the flight.

If anyone wants info on my cameras - just post here ... or if you have cameras that are good / bad ... all good info for all of us ...

Nigel
I'll fly anything if I can launch it ! Youtube : solentlifeuk
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bogusbandit56
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Like many - I have tried all sorts of camera's on-board and off. Hatcam, Cam-glasses, you name it ...

But I have to say that the best for keeping model in shot AND being able to zoom in / out without losing it ... has to be my old trusty Sony 8mm Handycam. People laugh when it comes out ... but put in the hands of a reasonable operator - you can have some of the best framed video ever. Yes I agree the resolution can be a bit off ... but the framing makes up for it.

My GoPro Hero 4 - if there was ever a camera that I hate - this has to be it ! I have so many batterys for it - trying to get any run time out of it.

SJ Sport cams (look like the GoPro 4) ... at least they keep working for longer than the GoPro ... but my 4K version cannot synch sound to video ! I transfer to PC and go to edit. Starts fine and then after a short time - the sound is dragging later and later compared to the video. So I end up cutting the sound and re-adding back to correct. The lower spec SJ sports are fine on this but I have difficulty believing its 1080 ! Its more like an expanded 480.

My Sunglass Camera is good - but I wear glasses and it doesn't sit well.

With all hat / sunglass cams - you have the same problem ... any movement of your head to look to side ... and the natural action to eyeball ahead of the model kills the video !

808's ... and MD80's ... well I think they have been put to history now by many newer cams ... and anyway - I could never keep one working more than a few months or so before it failed.

Which now brings me to the biggest PoS ever to hit the market .... Soloshot 3.

I was browsing online thinking about what camera can I get for model filming. I cam upon a link for Soloshot. The Robot Camera ... the videos supposedly showing it working were great - EXACTLY what I needed for the Club Shows etc. I accepted the Pre-Order deal of about 33% of price. They said I would wait about 3 - 5months for delivery. It actually took over 2 years before I saw my box in the mail.
Within the first year - the sealed in battery failed to charge. So I contacted Soloshot who finally gave in and sent me a new SS3 complete and told me to keep the old. Meanwhile I now see they are selling the SS3 Optic 25 system at $399 to clear ... I had paid the DISCOUNTED $599 !! AND paid Customs.
It has NEVER performed as advertised. It is fine with slow moving objects that are at a reasonable distance ... but as soon as you start to increase speed or do moderately fast direction changes - it loses it. Half the time during initialisation - it fails to align with the tag it tracks ... with lens way off mark.

I managed to force charge the old SS3 and I now have both working ... so when I video events now - I have both running with different settings to at least capture something.

They have Nikon Shoe mount on top - I am going to mount one of my Sport cams on that so I get a wide view anyway to go with the SS3 zoomed recording. That way I might at least get all the flight.

If anyone wants info on my cameras - just post here ... or if you have cameras that are good / bad ... all good info for all of us ...

Nigel

I` ve just been on youtube to have a look at the SS3 and most peoples experience is similar to your`s.
I have a mobius which I can chuck on a plane or use as a hat cam and it is very easy to use,but the constant criticism is "all I could see is a dot in the sky"
I suppose the best thing is the Sony and have a friend as a camera person.
Wot, no Depron?
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solentlife
The problem with the SS3 is it is using GPS as the referencing of TAG to Camera unit. It needs something additional to increase its accuracy. It is suggested it also has 'visual contrast' to aid the tracking - that's possible because in early Firmware - it had trouble in bright sunlight and half light.

As many know - GPS is only good for 2 - 3m accuracy at best averaging. So the combo of TAG and base GPS means that the unit cannot be relied on closer than about 10m between the two. This bears out in the field.
Its a sophisticated piece of kit ... but let down by its tracking.

I asked Soloshot about static use and they added Static code to the FW - so you can set it up even indoors and just have it statically video if you choose.

Some users have complained about any slight knock .. even ground tremble has triggered re-calibration of the unit. This is really silly considering all the Multi-Rotors such as DJI etc. out there that can do PoI / Follow me etc. with GPS to GPS ... AND keep tracking more precise than SS3.

I have the 25x zoom version and to be honest - it is less zoom than my other digicams at 12x. The 65x zoom version - I read posts about the lens when zoomed out is too heavy for the mount motors that control the tilt / pan ...

Having invested in it .. having rec'd a free replacement ... I will persevere and try to arrive at workable setup. But in all honesty - I would advise others not to waste money on it ...
I'll fly anything if I can launch it ! Youtube : solentlifeuk
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andy_downs
for onboard camera ive used a keyring fob camera although its not working like it should at the mo and my hat cam is a bit big for onboard shots.DSCF1667.JPG 
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solentlife
The 'keyring' 808 cameras are good for on-board ...

A simple trick for anyone concerned about waterproofing ....

After charging and inserting SD card .... take plain clear Clingfilm (Sandwich wrap) and enclose the whole 808 in it. Making sure only a drum tight single layer covers the mic / video holes. This will not alter the video in any way at all ... but will make your 808 watertight. You can still press the buttons and see the LED indicator. You can attach Velcro to the film and to be honest - I always have a thin thread safety tether from the 808 to a point on the model just in case it does come free. I also pass a rubber band over the 808 securing it to the Velcro.
If you use the 3D printed mount - then the Velcro is not needed with the rubber band.

I have had my Polaris upside down in the water with 808 fully submerged and it never had one drop of water in.

The Clingfilm trick works with literally any camera - just make sure single tight no wrinkle layer over lens.

Nigel
I'll fly anything if I can launch it ! Youtube : solentlifeuk
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solentlife
One of the hardest things with Hatcams .... apart from the lack of zoom .. is targeting.

I know people who have fashioned 'gun sight' aiming devices ... laser pointers (only good for short distance) and bent rod fixtures.

The bent rod being fixed to the camera and the far end bent DOWN in front of eye with a square or circle of rod framing the video area ...
Its a variation of the bar with ring sights used by hand held cameras without screens / eyepieces to aim shots.

I would like to see possibility to link a camera zoom / on - off to an RC radio ... so in the use of a Hatcam .. we could while flying action such.

Nigel
I'll fly anything if I can launch it ! Youtube : solentlifeuk
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solentlife
Moving on ... lets look at on-board and possibilities to FPV or even just view while flying.

I have used the ELITE Quanum 600mWH 5.8Ghz 40ch camera / Tx unit ... which is cheap and very small ... It has more than enough range for our use.

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/fx718-6-40-channel-600mw-tx-cam-plug-and-play-kit.html



On the ground you can either have a common set of Goggles and / or the EACHINE ROTGOI 5.8Ghz 150ch OTG Rx to feed an OTG capable Android phone / tablet.

https://www.eachine.com/Eachine-ROTG01-UVC-OTG-5.8G-150CH-Full-Channel-FPV-Receiver-For-Android-Mobile-Phone-Smartphone-p-843.html



Anyone with such Rx can simultaneously view your on-board camera ... this is great for shows when you can set up an Android tablet for spectators to view .....

I am considering mounting the above on my Mossie ... set the camera where Pilot would sit.
The TX antenna as we all know is actually a wire inside a plastic tube. We can remove the pivoted antenna as supplied and replace with a bare antenna wire instead to lay as needed and discreetly on the model.

Nigel

NOTE : I have no connection to either and only suggest based on my personal use. I do admit that I was a reviewer of Eachine Quads / Multi Rotors in the past, but this has no influence on the above.
I'll fly anything if I can launch it ! Youtube : solentlifeuk
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solentlife
If anyone else has gear they like ... post up ... all is good info.
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JTiger
I haven't used it myself but the Runcam Split has built in onboard DVR that does 1080p 60fps. I looked at it when I was thinking about putting an onboard camera on one of my planes. I never pulled the trigger but I think it would've worked really well as a lightweight video camera.
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mastermalpass086
All of my videos are shot using my Samsung Galaxy S6 - a trusty phone I got in Dec 2015, and have yet to see a phone I would like more. It's camera is incredibly competent for a phone and has shot the best videos I think I can with just myself and a low budget. I built a cardboard attachment that slips onto my 'flat=peak' hats, and the adjustable strap of the hat keeps it clinging tight to my head. The cap being in my view at all times helps me to remember to look with my head, and the S6's digital stabilisation helps keep everything smooth.

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Onboard footage is recorded on the (second) Mobius C2. I too am tethering it to my planes now, after I crashed my Su-34 into a tree with the first camera velcro'd under the forward fuselage, and the plane left it behind. I never found it, went up there with a metal detector and all. 🙁
BRB - Building another nosecone.
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DualDesertEagle
Well if I wanna film planes by myself while flying them I just do the same as when I go dirt jumping, I put on my fullface helmet with its side mounted helmet cam. Can't zoom in with that thing, but as u can see in this video, tracking couldn't be any better:

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